08/28/2008 - Monaco, France (Sportsbook Betting Lines) - Manchester United, which won the Champions League last season, was drawn into Group E of the 2008-09 edition on Thursday with Scottish champions Celtic, Spanish runners-up Villarreal and Danish club AaB.
The two British giants played in the Champions League two seasons ago, with Man United coming out on top at Old Trafford by a 3-2 scoreline, while Celtic edged United 1-0 at Parkhead.
Last season's Champions League runners-up, Chelsea, has been paired with Roma, Bordeaux and shock Romanian champions CFR Cluj in Group A. Liverpool has been drawn alongside Marseille, PSV Eindhoven and Atletico Madrid in Group D.
Liverpool advanced to the group stages with a highly unconvincing 1-0 aggregate win over Belgian champions Standard Liege. Liverpool captured the second leg in extra time on Wednesday, 1-0.
England's fourth representative, Arsenal, is in Group G with FC Porto, Dynamo Kyiv and Fenerbahce. The Gunners powered through to the group stages with a commanding 6-0 aggregate win over Dutch side FC Twente.
The group stage starts in mid-September. The first matchday is Sept. 16, with games also on Sept. 17.
Following is the complete group draw:
Group A: Bordeaux, CFR Cluj, Chelsea, Roma.
Group B: Anorthosis, Inter Milan, Panathinaikos, Werder Bremen.
Group C: Barcelona, Basel, Shakhtar Donetsk, Sporting Lisbon.
Group D: Atletico Madrid, Liverpool, Marseille, PSV Eindhoven.
Group E: AaB, Celtic, Manchester United, Villarreal.
Group F: Bayern Munich, Fiorentina, Lyon, Steaua Bucharest.
Group G: Arsenal, Dynamo Kyiv, FC Porto, Fenerbahce.
Group H: BATE Borisov, Juventus, Real Madrid, Zenit St Petersburg.
(Courtesy of sportbox.tv)
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